Curse

chessyang · Dec 24, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Ya the snow ball fights were good the first day or two.. now.. ... ya.. i give up..

funny... in the chat log with GG (from GWO yesterday) she said she going to play the snowball fights wonder is she had any afker's

lishi · Dec 24, 2006, 06:53 PM // 18:53

to resolve the probrem of leecher wont be hard.

put a admin who check 1 hour of snowball each day.

if someone is caught write down the dame somewhere. and send a warning.

the day after check the log again if he is keeping leeching

ban or reset title.

Lord Mendes · Dec 24, 2006, 07:45 PM // 19:45

I think Leguma has a very valid point, and a slight modification to do something about leechers could greatly improve the "random" arenas (RA, Dwayna vs Grenth, Fort Aspenwood).
Seriously, it takes very little code to impose a 24 hour "ban" from an arena if the player has not performed any actions (moved) for an entire game, and such a sanction could greatly improve these arenas.
Leechers and afkers are a problem, and it is obvious that Anet does not allow this to obtain any titles (lightbringer anyone?).
Also, no need to say things like "Stop crying about it", it is simply a frustrating issue that should be adressed because it is bothering many people, and it can easily be solved with a few lines of simple code.

Shaq_gw · Dec 24, 2006, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by gobla

Very simple and easy solution:

You have a leecher? You leave. If everyone does this then leeching won't be rewarding anymore. And nobody will leech anymore. Very easy.

It's not that simple. The leecher isn't even there to notice. That is what it is all about. He/she just leaves the computer running and anything gained during the afk time is better than nothing.

The only way to get them is to auto-kick for inactivity. But even then they would probably find a way to fake activity.

It's is very hard to detect them if they don't want to be

Zakarr · Dec 24, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Companies exist to make profit. Anet has said that they don't see leeches as big enough problem. It is time to put economical pressure. Every reasonable company will react to that. Boycott everything which has something to do with Anet or GW. It would eventually solve the leech problem.

Now let's go back to the reality and realize that boycotts never work because people prefer to complain instead doing something real and these forums hold only tiny margin of the whole community anyway. Conclusion: leech problem will never vanish. End of the story.

Illuminus · Dec 24, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27

Bah, five matched after each other i had a leecher.. and we lost each time. Frustrating, but nothing that can really be done.

At least it gives me time to muck around instead of picking up present the whole time

garethporlest18 · Dec 24, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by Servant of Kali

Look, when you PUG, you
1) enter someone elses group
2) make your own

If you make your own, do what you want.
If you enter someone elses, then YES you either listen to group leadership or get the hell out of there, comprehendo? Im not the only one tired of leeroys. And i never met a skilled GW players who would say "dont tell me how to play the game". In 100% cases someone said that, he was a noob, and usually a 12yr old kiddo.

Meh if they don't do it my way I usually don't like to be there. I did mention that I was a bit elitist myself didn't I? Oh maybe I didn't.

But if it's a voting system that everyone votes that person be kicked it wouldn't be that bad.

Ansgar Two Hand · Dec 24, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

If you're worried about PUG problems, then you can limit a kick command to random type arenas. However, I don't think they'll think leeching is a "problem" unless a LOT of people start complaining and leaving, and I can't really see that happening.

Diddy bow · Dec 24, 2006, 11:54 PM // 23:54

i think the 3/4 kick thing is a gd idea (but only in random types), so many other games have it so why not gw... ive never really had problems with leechers but it can just be fixed pretty eaisily i think...

keke_ · Dec 25, 2006, 12:47 AM // 00:47

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This is not a new problem, but in almost 2 years, the devs have done NOTHING to address it, NOTHING at all. How hard can it be to detect leechers? They have a script that hits enter mission every so often and they spend the entire game doing NOTHING. I'm not a programer by trade, but I know that is is not hard to see that a player's client has transmited NO actions to the server for the duration of an entire game.

If I leech I use the a little bird thingy that goes up and down that you see in ppls gardens. Thats not 3rd party programs, or scripting.

FelixCarter · Dec 25, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

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Originally Posted by keke_

If I leech I use the a little bird thingy that goes up and down that you see in ppls gardens. Thats not 3rd party programs, or scripting.

A part of my soul died after looking at that picture for a minute or two... -_-"

I'm not sure if I should be complaining that you're adding to the problem of leeching, or if I should plead for you to never draw a picture like that ever again. T_T"

Maybe both.

CyberNigma · Dec 25, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43

heh, if leechers werne't a problem then why remove the spiked eggnogs from the snowball fights. if it's about fun, then it shoud be played for fun period... remove all rewards for winning and losing. After all, it's about fun, if you want a reward then you're being selfish and greedy.

baddog992 · Dec 25, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

I have a great idea when people leave they should lose faction point and or titles points, with reconnectes now possible there should be no need for people to bail, if you bail you lose points. Problem solved eveyones happy except for the lazy akfers who is now gonna have work for title points and factions points. Its a simple solution, and with reconnects there is no excuse not to implent this, its possible to reconnect. Start punishing people with -points, other games do this all the time.

DFrost · Dec 25, 2006, 07:45 PM // 19:45

Well whether ANet sees it as a big problem or not, a lot of players find leeching extremely annoying. I know I stopped playing FA (or "Fart Asspenwood", which suits it better these days, hyuck hyuck) because there was always at least 2 leeches per team.

Divinus Stella · Dec 25, 2006, 08:30 PM // 20:30

That pic is brilliant, i think any leecher who uses a toy bird to play guildwars for him is genious.

Servant of Kali · Dec 25, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

KICK option is needed for PUGs in PvE or PUGing is going to die fast. It already is more difficult to PUG, i understand why. But game isnt promoting pugs; making it easier to pug that is.

leguma · Dec 26, 2006, 12:00 PM // 12:00

I've put some thing into this and it occurs to me that the only sollution is for me to start leeching as well.
Here is why:

1. People who loose because of leechers get frustated and either give up or start leeching themselves.
2. People who persevere will keep getting teamed with leeches and eventually rech one of the two conclusions in point 1.
3. If people will not leech and rather stop playing, the percentage of leechers goes up.
3. If people start leeching, the percentage of leechers goes up.
4. If this goes on for long enough, it will get to the pooint where the number of leechers in there truly does become a problem and A.net has to do something about it.

Hell, I've ben UAX for ages, but after this event is over I'm going to starrt leeching the RAs, even though I can't actually get any more faction, cause (let's all say it together now) "leeching is not a problem".

Lord Mendes · Dec 26, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by leguma

I've put some thing into this and it occurs to me that the only sollution is for me to start leeching as well.
Here is why:

1. People who loose because of leechers get frustated and either give up or start leeching themselves.
2. People who persevere will keep getting teamed with leeches and eventually rech one of the two conclusions in point 1.
3. If people will not leech and rather stop playing, the percentage of leechers goes up.
3. If people start leeching, the percentage of leechers goes up.
4. If this goes on for long enough, it will get to the pooint where the number of leechers in there truly does become a problem and A.net has to do something about it.

Hell, I've ben UAX for ages, but after this event is over I'm going to starrt leeching the RAs, even though I can't actually get any more faction, cause (let's all say it together now) "leeching is not a problem".

pwned?
/clap

Grais · Dec 26, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

In regards to a party vote kik system.....this is elementary, I cant beleive you guys are even asking for such a stupid game wrecker as Party Kick.

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I fail to see how this could get abused except in the rarest of cases.

Hmmmmm big group is fighting a mob, Player A dies, Monster A B, and C drop ectos for player A(never happen I know but bear with me),mmmmm, Player C to B, then to D, whisper, 'hey lets kik player A, and then wait here and we can have his 3 ectos', player B, then Player D, 'Hell Yeah'. Player A booted.

Player kick is NEVER going to happen, it matters not how many people want it, it is never going to happen, and rightly so, easiest thing is to accept it and stop wishing they would change it.

leguma · Dec 26, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grais

In regards to a party vote kik system.....this is elementary, I cant beleive you guys are even asking for such a stupid game wrecker as Party Kick.

Hmmmmm big group is fighting a mob, Player A dies, Monster A B, and C drop ectos for player A(never happen I know but bear with me),mmmmm, Player C to B, then to D, whisper, 'hey lets kik player A, and then wait here and we can have his 3 ectos', player B, then Player D, 'Hell Yeah'. Player A booted.

Player kick is NEVER going to happen, it matters not how many people want it, it is never going to happen, and rightly so, easiest thing is to accept it and stop wishing they would change it.

Maybe you missed the part where kick command was being propposed for random grouping PvP aenas so that you could get rid of leechers without having to constantly rage... just maybe.